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Post by Nonou on Mar 18, 2015 22:09:02 GMT 1
Recall the following rules: 1. It is forbidden to buy or sell inappropriate and illegal items in the marketplace. 2. It is forbidden to have inappropriate avatars. 3. It is forbidden to create games with inappropriate content 4. It is forbidden to have Inappropriate games titles and profile names. 5. Any type of spam in the comments or flood is prohibited. 6. Any type of inappropriate language is prohibited. 7. Any offense and bullying to any user and administrator is prohibited. 8. Try to deceive other users, such as offering gold or asking their passwords is prohibited. Remember, using outside tools (like CheatEngine) do to unauthorized actions (like selling content with NoTexture or exceeding block limit) are grounds for ban too. It's rare to get banned for using known ingame exploits, but it is also possible if you do something extremely bad with them. Anyway, if you don't think any of those rules were broken, then see the following quote and proceed as you see fit. *This message was deleted because I wanted to do so* Kris told me he sent an email to Daniel. He was banned for trying to do something with the documents. No further details were given to me since Kris decided to leave. Then I will probably suicide.
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Post by Nonou on Mar 18, 2015 22:12:27 GMT 1
Why are you posting that? It's not going to remove the ban of Kris, only can get you banned I will try to say that I am angry. I know you're right. I may get banned. But I will definitely get a ban if Kris doesn't come back. That's for sure
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Post by YL on Mar 18, 2015 22:16:32 GMT 1
He's leaving Kogama for a few (maybe 1) day ban? Seriously...
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Post by Nonou on Mar 18, 2015 22:31:21 GMT 1
He's leaving Kogama for a few (maybe 1) day ban? Seriously... I don't know. At a private chat with him he told: '' TheRandomCookie: I think i'll stop KoGaMa. '' using this account. I have now calmed down and I need to apologize to you, that I was really angry. Kris only knows why it would be so bad for me for him to leave. So now I will spread this #WeWantKrisBack
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Post by Daniel Everland on Mar 19, 2015 11:00:19 GMT 1
This has been blown way out of proportion. I'm getting a bit tired of getting called out on "withholding information", when in reality I was just trying to protect Kris' privacy. As soon as he contacted me with an account I knew was his, I explained to him exactly what happened. He got banned for tampering with memory values, most likely using Cheat Engine. The ban lasts for three days, which I also told him. Kris told me he sent an email to Daniel. He was banned for trying to do something with the documents. This is incorrect. Kris made the assumption that it happened because I asked him to delete his cache, due to another minor issue. I corrected him, telling him that would never cause the cheating system to trigger a ban. It seems that there's a bit of a misunderstanding in regards to how the automated anti-cheating system works, which does ban users automatically. I'll start by describing how users cheat in case someone here doesn't know (Good on you, you shouldn't cheat!) Whenever you run anything on your computer, data will be stored in the computers memory. Think of it like a temporary hard drive. Whenever we write code we use something called a variable to store data - these are the values hackers change. It could be something as simple as the value that contains the amount of ammo you have left in your weapon, to something as complex as values in your graphics driver, which can cause wicked effects we have no control over. In order to get caught by our anti-cheating system you'll have to do one of two things: Either use the speedhack Cheat Engine automatically integrates, or change a value we know is publicly known. This means you'd have to change one of a few dozen select values out of millions of other values, and as such I find it hard to believe this could ever happen unintentionally. I'll leave the thread open for a calm and contained debate, or any other questions regarding getting banned or the anti-cheating system.
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Post by Nonou on Mar 19, 2015 12:34:05 GMT 1
This is incorrect. Kris made the assumption that it happened because I asked him to delete his cache, due to another minor issue. I corrected him, telling him that would never cause the cheating system to trigger a ban.You were pretty or even extremely unclear regarding him. I would like to know more about the above sentence. Was it a fail by the auto-ban system or did Kris do something?
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Post by _-Zoit-__-Theo-_ on Mar 19, 2015 13:07:05 GMT 1
You must calm -_-. He can online now
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Post by YL on Mar 19, 2015 13:13:38 GMT 1
This is incorrect. Kris made the assumption that it happened because I asked him to delete his cache, due to another minor issue. I corrected him, telling him that would never cause the cheating system to trigger a ban.You were pretty or even extremely unclear regarding him. I would like to know more about the above sentence. Was it a fail by the auto-ban system or did Kris do something? Kris deleted his cache earlier because of a minor issue. Now that he was banned, he thought that the cache clearing triggered the auto-ban system. Daniel told Kris that clearing your cache would never trigger the auto-ban system
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Post by Nonou on Mar 19, 2015 13:40:43 GMT 1
You were pretty or even extremely unclear regarding him. I would like to know more about the above sentence. Was it a fail by the auto-ban system or did Kris do something? Kris deleted his cache earlier because of a minor issue. Now that he was banned, he thought that the cache clearing triggered the auto-ban system. Daniel told Kris that clearing your cache would never trigger the auto-ban system I guess that a ''this'' should have been added between '' telling him that this would never cause the cheating system to trigger a ban.''
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Post by YL on Mar 19, 2015 14:32:17 GMT 1
It's grammatically correct even when there isn't a "this" in the sentence, "that" in the sentence refers to the cache clearing
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Post by Daniel Everland on Mar 19, 2015 14:33:13 GMT 1
Yep, that's exactly what I meant. Sorry for the confusion.
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Post by Nonou on Mar 19, 2015 15:20:16 GMT 1
Dear KoGaMa Community, There have been a mistake. You banned and warned Kris for no reason. If you decide to read this post, read it till the end and do not conclude anything before you have read the whole text. When reading this post, please take under consideration the following facts: - KoGaMa has a weak protection system
- Kris2610 has never made anything before
- Kris belongs to the translation group and he was loyal and trustworthy
- He keeps on admitting he never used a value changer such as Cheat Engine
- He was not informed about that immediately and tarek unbanned him
- From my personal experience I know Kris never used cheat engines
- He was aware of the punishments that will be given to those that use such engines
- Humans err
Dot Number 1:Since KoGaMa is a small community, you know that the protection system is so low. The autoban, can have consequences that are not pleasant. There can be fake warnings and bans. Intentionally it will punish the users of Value cheaters. But, with such a poor system a hacker with knowledge, can use other accounts to change value or change the Cheat Engine's value for another userDot Number 2:Kris user's ID is 57146. That means that he is old enough, at KoGaMa. If he had done anything inappropriate or used something before, you could have had a sign that he has been caught to be using such engines. His list is white, empty, clearDot Number 3: He is a translator and he also own community badge. This means he is trustworthy to have such a position. Why would he risk to use cheats and lose all these hard made trophies? He has showed loyality and he has never given out anything private. Hmm, something doesn't fit in all this case.Dot Number 4:I know him very well, better than anyone I guess. He keeps on saying he doesn't even know how to cheat or change values. He has never downloaded CheatEngine. If he had done so, because he is an amazing creator he could have made avatars or models with more blocks that the allowed number. He hasn't! But after all why would he use cheats? He has plenty of gold, silver and XP. He is popular in-game and he has gained all these through a normal way. He has sold many models, he has obtained 2 Model of the Week and he sells his models at an increased silver price. He is invited to mnay successful games while he has 1, his own. His XP, his silver and his gold can be explained. But which value could he have changed? PvP infinite ammo or immortality? Why would he risk all the hardwork earned things? Hmm I can spot another strange point that would explain that something is wrong if you think about the Dot Number 1.Dot Number 5:
He was not informed immediately for his supposed 'punishment'. Hmm was anything behind this? As Daniel stated he would like to keep it private. But Kris had posted that he has no idea. Daniel had obviously seen the post. He knew that he didn't know. Lies. He contacted with Kris. And what? He had supposedly changed a value while actually he hadn't. But that's what had been shown. After some hours he was unbanned by tareksamni. Wasn't it a 3-day ban? Did it occur to prevent something? The devs can answer us for sure. Kris is warned for the 'cheat'. Believe me this kid has never used it. Why should you believe him? Because of the reasons mentioned above. But shouldn't he do this 3-day ban? Why was he unbanned so soon? Was it a mistake? Was it a warning? Was it a fake warning and an unreal autoban fail? Why does this whole case make me feel unsure? Maybe because it isn't real? Let's keep on admitting. Dot Number 6:As I mentioned above , as a passioned KoGaMian, he could have made cool creation with exceed block borders. He hasn't. Nor does he have any videos or projects with such things. Kris is not a programmer nor an expert on hacks. He has no idea. Why would he use cheats on his basic account? He could use a new account. He risked all of his hard work? I don't know, why don't you tell us Daniel? Even if he used an unknown engine, he doesn't know how to change values. Maybe you cannot admit a mistake sir perfect? Am I the only one that thinks this has no normal answer? It cannot be his action, Kris is a fair and hardworking boy. Dot Number 7:''Hi Kogamians,
Lately we have been experiencing various hacking and exploit issues on KoGaMa.
Some of these are causing serious issues for Kogama. To keep KoGaMa a fun and safe place to be creative and play games it is necessary to actively do something about these exploits and hacks. This release contains an auto-ban system that detects when cheating or hacking is being used. This week the bans will be for 2 days. After this week it will be 7 days. So DON'T try to use the cheat anymore or you will get banned! ''
This was announced at the news: www.kogama.com/news/100/Kris was aware of this. He has tried a lot to become who he is at KoGaMa today. Why would he do such a thing? To get a ban, permanently? I assume he is not crazy nor stupid to do this. Dot Number 8:
To err is human. The mistake can have been made by you and not by Kris. Thanks for reading Nonou It's grammatically correct even when there isn't a "this" in the sentence, "that" in the sentence refers to the cache clearing Yep, that's exactly what I meant. Sorry for the confusion. I want to say you that I do not write things without point either. You know when you connect 'that' with a verb, it has a different meaning, except pointing something. So you can say: I believe that, I think that, I assume that, I know that is mostly used as I say and not like pointing something
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Post by YL on Mar 19, 2015 15:53:00 GMT 1
Yet Kris used the multiple project memberships glitch to get xp
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Post by Nonou on Mar 19, 2015 16:15:54 GMT 1
Yet Kris used the multiple project memberships glitch to get xp Ehm, he did it once and he had reported the bug, hours ago. After all, all he wanted is to report this glitch to KoGaMa, not to help himself to get a bunch of XP
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Post by YL on Mar 19, 2015 16:32:33 GMT 1
This account is quite fishy: www.kogama.com/profile/3519113/You can see that the friends on this account are Cro-Legend, Jonas99, Missile professor and Vip-Bloody However, in the account go to the second page of published games and there will be a game called "Coins and Money [ 100.000$ ]". This game has Nonou and Kris2610 as members, which means that they both were in friends with this account at some time but for some reason removed the account from friends. The account has 13 empty games with no members, but they all have more likes than plays. These games were created at the time when people were using the multiple memberships glitch the most and when it wasn't fixed yet In the Coins and Money game, one of the members has an username "Missle Professor" (notice the second missing i letter) when in the account's friends list there is an account named "Missile Professor" (notice how the second i letter is there) These accounts are two different accounts, the account Missile Professor is a new account with nothing in it, the account Missle Professor has published a game with 90.000 plays and claims to be Nonou's brothers account The game "Coins and Money [ 100.000$ ]" is last published 3.1.2015, but the picture is taken very recently. The picture shows Nonou's avatar and Level 24 picture (his current level)
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