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Post by Daniel Everland on Jun 19, 2014 14:36:47 GMT 1
News Announcement
What's new?
We're proud to finally introduce avatar reselling! That's right, you can now sell your creative creations on the marketplace!
Additionally, we've fixed the issue with illegal cubes. You can no longer break your account using illegal cubes, however, we still recommend not experimenting illegal cubes. While it's highly unlikely that there are any issues with the system (Let's face it, I tested it. It has to work, right? Right guys?), you still might encounter issues with illegal cubes.
The way it works is if you break your account (Fill a body part with nothing but illegal cubes), you have to rejoin an avatar edit twice. Once you've done so your avatar will be reset and your account restored back to normal. You can still use illegal cubes though, just make sure each body part has at least one "legal" cube
Thanks for your interest in the test program, we appreciate your support!
-KoGaMa Dev Team.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2014 14:47:30 GMT 1
If i sell my avatar Will i lose it? And for example King of Fire avatar if it's 325 gold,will it give me 325 or give m 25% of it (i tried this on a alt so i wont lose stuff on my main lol)
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Post by Daniel Everland on Jun 19, 2014 14:49:28 GMT 1
If i sell my avatar Will i lose it? And for example King of Fire avatar if it's 325 gold,will it give me 325 or give m 25% of it (i tried this on a alt so i wont lose stuff on my main lol) You won't ever lose anything. Feel free to sell whatever you please I've never actually been briefed on how pricing works, but from experience I can tell that you receive 1 gold per purchase. I might be wrong and there might be exceptions, but that's what I've observed.
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Post by GodCreator on Jun 19, 2014 14:54:35 GMT 1
I'm so happy KoGaMa got another update. Will there be a way to sell blueprints in the future?
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Post by Jatsu on Jun 19, 2014 14:56:53 GMT 1
Great update!
Avatar reselling - long awaited. Super glad it's finally here! A little depressing that they cost 275 to buy from other players, but I understand the reason: it's adding a new avatar slot as well. The creator receives 1 gold in return for selling avatars too, which is also nice.
Also am really happy that illegal blocks won't cause as many problems. I feared for the worst and thought they were going to be removed (that "error" window on new-test :p). I'm really happy that model limits are still "flexible", if you know what I mean. (:
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Post by Jatsu on Jun 19, 2014 15:02:44 GMT 1
When you upload your avatar to the marketplace, you're uploading the avatar in that particular avatar slot. If you were to ever edit the avatar in the slot and go to upload the new version it would update the existing avatar that you previously uploaded to the Marketplace. An example: I upload my chicken avatar, but later edit my avatar to look like a sheep. I want to sell this sheep, so I update the upload - now the sheep will be on the Marketplace, but my chicken would be removed. However, if someone already bought the avatar before it was updated on the Marketplace, they would keep the old version - their purchase wouldn't change when the creator updates their avatar slot.
So TL;DR: you can only sell as many avatars that you have slots for and updating an avatar slot replaces the avatar you sold before.
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Post by GodCreator on Jun 19, 2014 15:39:50 GMT 1
One more question. Will selling avatars also come with the extras? Like say one of my avatars has skulls floating around it. Does it come with?
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Post by Jatsu on Jun 19, 2014 15:44:41 GMT 1
Nope. You're only buying the avatar model. You are only able to use accessories that you personally own.
You can verify this by taking a look at insmo's avatar. On his profile, his screenshot contains a picture with the smoke trail. However, on the marketplace, his avatar's screenshot is only its model.
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Post by GodCreator on Jun 19, 2014 15:48:58 GMT 1
Ok I have found a flaw. I put 2 avatars on the market and noticed they were both not 275 gold. I think how the price with gold works is (tell me if I am wrong, I am guessing) that when you bought the avatar to get that new "slot" is how much gold the avatar will sell when you put it on the market.
However, I think this should change and the default for all the avatars should be 275 gold unless you later on allow attachments like hats and the animations of skulls, hearts and the others. Then maybe more
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Post by Jatsu on Jun 19, 2014 17:05:34 GMT 1
The gold price of the avatar depends on which premade avatar it came from. For example: if it was originally the default avatar it would be sold as 275 gold, if it was originally the robot looking avatar it would be sold as 500 gold. 275 gold isn't the cheapest it can be though, the frog and soldier looking ones are sold for 250 gold, which means if they were edited and resold they'd be sold for 250 gold as well.
However, the reason why the prices are different isn't just because the premade avatars from which they came. Another reason for this is because Avatar Reset reverts the avatar back to these premade avatars as well. If you buy a player's version of an avatar and choose to reset it, it would be replaced with the premade avatar before it. So if you were to buy my chicken avatar, and choose to reset it, you would get the default avatar.
I was pretty optimistic at first that when Avatar Reset would be used, that it would reset the avatar back to the player's version and not the premade version. However there are pretty obvious reasons why this isn't the case. If you had bought an avatar that was very unusual or exploited, it would make it very difficult to edit it again later. Also, it would require extra memory to save a player's version of the avatar too, so it could be less costly.
Still, a standard or constant price for player made avatars would certainly feel better, but this would require one of two (or more) things: that either all premade avatars in the Shop are changed to be the same price OR that a second button be added to the Avatar Reset to distinguish between which version the avatar is reset to.
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Post by Daniel Everland on Jun 19, 2014 17:10:36 GMT 1
It should revert whatever avatar you bought back to the way you purchased it. So if I were to buy your model, Jatsu, edit it and reset it, it would reset back to the chicken I purchased, not whichever premade avatar you bought in the first place.
If you found a case where this isn't true, I'd be more than interested in knowing the steps to reproduce, as it would be considered a major issue.
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Post by Jatsu on Jun 19, 2014 17:13:49 GMT 1
I based my assumption after looking on your profile, Daniel. You had bought my chicken avatar earlier, but I do not see it on your profile. So I assumed that you had reset it to its default state.
If that's the case, then great! I was optimistic that that was the case, so thanks for explaining that to me. (:
There's only so much I can infer without directly testing it myself. :p I hope everything else I've been writing is accurate.
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Post by Daniel Everland on Jun 19, 2014 17:24:31 GMT 1
Ah, you just introduced me to a new bug without knowing!
Thanks for informing me, I'll add it to the database immediately.
For those wondering, there are issues with avatars bought on marketplace and your profile page. If you buy a pre-made avatar in-client, it will automatically add it to your list of avatars on your profile page, however, this doesn't happen with avatars bought on marketplace. What you introduced me to, Jatsu, is, if you take a screenshot of said avatar, it will be added to your list of avatars, but it will show the default blockboy screenshot instead of the proper screenshot of your newly purchased avatar
This isn't true, currently testing what the actual issue is.
Okay, I'm pretty sure this is what happens. If anybody reads this, feel free to confirm.
What happens is, when you buy an avatar it's added to your avatars list, but the default screenshot is applied. You have to manually take a screenshot for a proper image to be applied.
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Post by Rubix on Jun 19, 2014 17:29:35 GMT 1
If we upload an avatar twice would the avatar update or would there just be a second avatar of yours on the marketplace?
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Post by Daniel Everland on Jun 19, 2014 17:31:04 GMT 1
If we upload an avatar twice would the avatar update or would there just be a second avatar of yours on the marketplace? It updates your avatar
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