KrisTheBoss
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Clan leader and master-leader of GBC [Golden Builders Clan]
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Post by KrisTheBoss on Sept 12, 2015 9:48:56 GMT 1
So yeah.. One of my good friends got banned because they were member of an inappropiate game. I think its quite unfair because when he got invited the first time to the project it wasn't inappropiate, but the owner changed the photo and it went really inapropiate.. I remember i once reported an inappropiate game to Daniel and the members didnt get banned, only the owner. So my final question is: Can you really get banned for that?
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Post by Nonou on Sept 12, 2015 10:51:57 GMT 1
We have seen almost everything by KoGaMa now ... Damn, you gotta be really stupid to ban all members ... manuel had invited me to some of his games too. But not at the certain one. I remember ... that game wasn't inappropriate until recently. How could the members know? Know what the owner did!
"Sometimes, people have to use their brains"
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Post by Daniel Everland on Sept 12, 2015 11:31:14 GMT 1
I like to consider this as being a case of judgement. If I come across an inappropriate project, with a lot of members, I'll only ban the owner. If the project only has a couple of members, I think it's fair to assume they're all equally included in the building of the project, and as such, I'll ban the members as well.
I can't speak for the other admins, though. We don't have set guidelines regarding this.
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Post by Nonou on Sept 12, 2015 12:54:04 GMT 1
I like to consider this as being a case of judgement. If I come across an inappropriate project, with a lot of members, I'll only ban the owner. If the project only has a couple of members, I think it's fair to assume they're all equally included in the building of the project, and as such, I'll ban the members as well. I can't speak for the other admins, though. We don't have set guidelines regarding this. Literally, you're saying that you would normally ban the members of all of the inappropriate games, but due to the fact you're lazy, you didn't. Sounds fair. If this is not true, explain why your attitude is so unfair then
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Post by ᅚᅚ ᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚ ᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚᅚ on Sept 12, 2015 14:38:40 GMT 1
I like to consider this as being a case of judgement. If I come across an inappropriate project, with a lot of members, I'll only ban the owner. If the project only has a couple of members, I think it's fair to assume they're all equally included in the building of the project, and as such, I'll ban the members as well. I can't speak for the other admins, though. We don't have set guidelines regarding this. Literally, you're saying that you would normally ban the members of all of the inappropriate games, but due to the fact you're lazy, you didn't. Sounds fair. If this is not true, explain why your attitude is so unfair then You could have said that in a much nicer way.
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Post by Jatsu on Sept 12, 2015 16:27:02 GMT 1
Normally, it's the owner's responsibility to ensure there's no inappropriate content in their games when they publish them. If they publish a game with a thumbnail obviously depicting inappropriate content, it's clearly the owner's fault and that should result in a ban. In cases where the inappropriate content is only visible once in-game, the owner is still at fault for letting it through, but it raises the question if a member is responsible for it as well.
I'm not able to view edit history nor timestamps of when players enter projects. At best, I can see if players are owners of models through the log reports, and even then that doesn't tell me who actually edited that model. For me, since I'm unable to determine a clear and definitive culprit for members, I choose to warn them all instead. This works because even if they aren't responsible for creating inappropriate content, they're likely to be discouraged from doing so in the future. Plus, since they are a member of that project, they're just as capable of leaving the project or removing inappropriate content placing some responsibility on them as well. If I find they have been warned about inappropriate content before, then I'll give that member a ban.
So as Daniel said, moderators will have different methods for dealing with rule breaking. Blanket banning usually works because it has a high chance of catching the rule breaking user. It's unfortunate that innocent players will sometimes be affected by it, which is probably the reason why it was only done on low member games.
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Post by Daniel Everland on Sept 12, 2015 17:17:50 GMT 1
Literally, you're saying that you would normally ban the members of all of the inappropriate games, but due to the fact you're lazy, you didn't. Sounds fair. If this is not true, explain why your attitude is so unfair then Apologies for not wording myself correctly. The reason why I don't ban members of projects with many of them, is due to the fact they most of the members probably have little affiliation with the owner. This means that they probably didn't partake in any illicit behavior, and as such, they shouldn't be punished. If we have the contrary situation where there's only one or two members, they're probably heavily affiliated with the owner, which means there's a high chance they're aware of illicit activity. It doesn't have anything to do with lazyness, as we have tools to mass ban all members. It actually takes more time for me to only ban the owner, than it does to ban all members of a project.
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